You're browsing the GameFAQs Message Boards as a guest. And self-destruction only made Cell considerably more powerful, with the villain's Saiyan DNA allowing him to grow stronger after recovering from each significant injury, letting him nearly … The "Fully Powered Super Saiyajin" that Goku and Gohan had attained is an overall stronger level of SSJ than the "Ascended" state that Vegeta had acheived. This made him stronger than even Vegeta in his base form, allowing Gohan to handle Androids with ease. That all explains how Goku and Vegeta got to roughly the same level in base even though Goku was far stronger than Vegeta in the Cell Games. When Vegeta returns to Earth, he’s actually stronger than Goku– a fact noted by even Tenshinhan. And finally,when trunks trained for the cell games,he did the transformation wrong,just powering up and slowing himself down,while gohan did it right,because of his tranquil heart,filled with rage Both by an actual statement, and when he realized he needed to use his true speed to out do him. He's surpassed Goku numerous times before in the past, so this shouldn't be a mind-blowing revelation for him. Goku. I disagree. Powered by neoforums v3.6.0c Copyright Neo Era Media, Inc. 1999-2020. Therefor LSSJ form is not weaker than SS2 form, and it does indeed make the user stronger and stronger as long as they are transformed. Gohan at the end of the Cell Saga is honestly far stronger than the Gohan at the beginning of Buu Saga. Kaio's line on Gohan in comparison to Goku at the Cell Games. Gohan had his power unlock twice. Goku lasted like 5 episodes vs Cell and before the IT KameKameha, he was practically even with Cell. Note: This poll is public, your vote is visible to all. Frieza Saga- Goku had access to the super saiyan form at this time, so he would hands down defeat Gohan. Gohan's fight with Kefla in the manga version of Dragon Ball Super reveals that the son of Goku is much stronger than originally thought. I always assumed his cell games transformation was far stronger than goku and vegeta ss2 and even stronger that goku ss3... (like manga trunks) when old kai was awakening his hidden power, what we currently know as ultimate gohan, is actually just gohan achieving his adolescent SS2 power without having to transform.. A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. Broly's a terrible threat, you don't tell the guy who's basically stronger than you to fall back. We know (and it's common knowledge) that MSSJ Gohan is stronger than MSSJ Goku in the Cell Games, with Gohan thinking that the whole fight between Goku and Cell was just a play match. “Was” would have been replaced with “Is” if Gohan’s power level was same during the SSJ 2 Goku vs Vegeta fight in comparison to his PL during Cell saga. Vegeta and Gotenks don’t fight, but there would be no contest if they did. RELATED: Dragon Ball: 10 Youngest Characters in the Anime. Also vegeta wasn't stronger than goku in future trunks timeline. Perfect Cell, Gohan [Cell Games], Gohan [Boo Saga] and Goku [Cell Games] placement. Fanart [OC] Super Saiyan Gohan. Gohan spent a single day in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber with Goku and finally attained the Super Saiyan transformation. Actually once Goku told Cell about instant transmission Cell started taking the fight a little more seriously and Goku just got beat one-sidedly without even landing a single hit(aside from that time he tricked him with the Kamehameha teleport) and barely managed to dodge a couple hits while getting hit by the vast majority of them. As the hero of the story, Goku's main goal, besides saving the Earth and its inhabitants, is to find the strongest opponent he can and test his abilities. Privacy PolicyCookie SettingsDo Not Sell My InformationReport Ad. Vegeta did mention that Goku was stronger than Gohan “was” at his maximum, which would refer to Gohan’s power during the Cell games, right? The only real problem I have with Goku getting so much stronger in his SSJ form is that kind of makes him foregoing another year in the RoSaT a little bizarre. In movie 8, Goku was much weaker. Could Cell Games Gohan be much stronger Cell Games Goku ?? Even if goku was stronger than goten in the buu saga, goten would win, SSJ Gohan (Buu arc) V.S Cell Games Vegeta (Grade 2 SSJ), A serious question to the people that think Goku is stronger than Gogeta. Though Gohan had gotten much weaker due to not training after the Cell Games, he became stronger than he ever has after his potential was unlocked from Old Kaiō-shin. So, what happened was the Elder Kai pretty much unlock all of Gohan’s dormant sleeping potential. SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta were only a bit stronger than Teen Gohan. Cell not only was the first opponent that Goku ever gave up against but one of the few to cause his death by forcing Goku to heroically sacrifice his own life rather than allow Cell to destroy the Earth. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. *if it's Dragonball Z… Majin Vegeta told a Super Saiyan 2 Goku that he was stronger than Gohan (Cell arc). - Ghasts. This is the big leagues; man up or shut up Gohan. Before Broly was stronger, but now, Goku is the strongest. Which really puts into perspective Vegeta’s lack of power during the Cell Games. Gohan hasn't been in the same league as Goku and Vegeta ever since, but his power did significantly improve just in time for the Tournament of Power. The Cell Juniors, each nearly as strong as Cell himself, attack the Z-Fighters, effortlessly beating all but Veg… After Goku tells him that he's even stronger than his own dad, Gohan seems totally blown away by this. Cell then returns his attention to Gohan's friends and, instead of wasting energy and risking defeat by fighting them directly, he creates seven miniature versions of himself, which he calls the Cell Juniors. 11 Gotenks. via: reddit.com. Goku himself also stated that Gohan was stronger, something that Cell even confirmed. Hell, he surpassed him when he was only 4. Was Gohan stronger than Goku during the Cell Saga before going SSJ2. While Goku is left training Piccolo & Gohan, alongside training his own use of Super Saiyan, Vegeta flies off somewhere (outer space in the anime) for solo training. Throughout the Saiyan and Freeza arc, Goku was solidly stronger than Gohan except for when he was incapacitated. As for Gohan not wanting to be a fighter, tough ****. It can be safely stated that Goku is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball series, despite Akira Toriyama's attempts at ushering in the era of Goku's son, Gohan, midway through Dragon Ball Z. Both Vegeta and Piccolo directly state SS2 Goku is stronger than SS2E Gohan at the Cell Games. That would make the fight a cakewalk for Gotenks. I'd say that in terms of straight power level, Gohan had a higher strength than Vegeta. According to the official Daizenshuu, SSJ3 Goku is stronger than Gohan, but regular SSJ Goku was slightly weaker than Gohan s regular SSJ. Gohan with this power up was even stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku and Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks since he was able to dominate Super Buu with ease without transforming. 5 SSJ Adult Gohan His form is stronger than Goku’s too. Although he does get his moment during the final struggle. Even Cell Games Saga Goku can beat Broly. Gotenks is able to transform into a Super Saiyan 3. The actual name of … Because of gohans hidden potential which pretty much out classes every body. ..."go put on your favorite lingerie and streak in your public library while yelling about how sexy you'd look as a dolphin." Because Vegeta says the gap hasnt changed. We saw him tank a barrage of attacks from Cell earlier-on without any damage whatsoever. Yes, it was a major plot point in the Buu Saga as well. this screenshot is for warcraft 3 players: http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/5835/masscritters.jpg, 3DS FC (For Pokemon Mainly): 3582 - 9560 - 3048. no he didn't; he got one hit on cell and got his ass beat 99% of the other time. This is why Gohan eventually becomes more interested in studying and education than he does with fighting, developing a more pacifistic attitude and only fighting when he needs to. After a year with Piccolo, who said he would make him into the strongest warrior, Gohan grew into a warrior. With the Earth heading towards danger, and Piccolo threatening him, he begins training. I have Buu saga Goku about 180 though. If vegeta had fought cell games gohan before he got the babidi boost, would he have been weaker or stronger? Posted by 2 days ago. Movie 8 Gohan>Cell Games Gohan, the proof is in the pudding. Goku then surpassed his … During the Cell Saga, Gohan became the show's strongest hero, but slacked off on his training as he grew older. In fact, Adult Gohan who was weaker than … Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. 137 comments. My Cell Games gaps using the Goku, Beerus & Whis gaps. Cell was weaker than SSJ2 Gohan in Z, so at this point it seems like an easy win for Piccolo. If Goku cared so much for Gohan's safety at this one moment, it clearly means Gohan isn't nearly as strong as his Cell Games self, who may I remind you is stronger than SSj Goku. This was, and still is, an integral part of his character. The first time was with the Elder Namekian, also known as Guru on Planet Namek, and the second time was with the Elder Supreme Kai back in Dragon Ball Z. Base Goku with God Ki is stronger than SSJ3 from Z, and Piccolo can hold his own against him. Continue this thread View entire discussion ( 29 comments) More posts from the dbz community. This is a split board - You can return to the Split List for other boards. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. *This is an exact translation and not an edit one. Not all throughout Z, Gohan's biggest jumps in strength were pre-Cell Games and onward. This means that while Gohan could become stronger than Goku if he trained more, he isn't as driven to train as Goku. 3.2k. Gohan is informed of Goku's death. 3.2k. Did pre-Majin Vegeta surpass Cell Games Gohan? Would that be possible ?? Gohan might've come into his own near the end of the Cell Games, but one can't exactly forget the too-nice-for-the-world persona that was holding him back all this time. share. After gaining his full power, Cell threatened the world and announced a tournament in ten days. Why? In fact they were weaker than him in their SSJ1 forms. 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